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 Valefor.Prothescar
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-05-10 08:57:18
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 Valefor.Prothescar
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-05-10 09:47:43
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k done, I'm going to go pass out now
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By Bismarck.Diablosword 2012-05-10 09:49:45
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By Lakshmi.Alryc 2012-05-10 10:08:08
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Excellent.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-05-10 10:20:14
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tl;dr



JK, great stuff ^^
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-05-10 10:51:47
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I cannot thank you enough right now.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-10 10:54:43
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Please make "Khadga (Any of them)
There's nothing redeeming about this line of swords."

Big and red.
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By Ragnarok.Arcalimo 2012-05-10 11:01:11
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Also i think you forgot to mention your loved regain earring xD
Awesome job nonetheless, and that was so fast lol
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By Bahamut.Enkidou 2012-05-10 11:20:02
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Give the man a sticky for this thread please!
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By Bahamut.Itze 2012-05-10 11:20:22
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Should totally throw in a BLU XML for the lazy folks 9.5/10 other wise nicely done.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-05-10 11:30:33
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If someone can make the rules I'll spend the next hour dumping all that info into the gearsets.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-05-10 11:52:41
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Forgot I made a converter from console lines to spellast.

I took out the staves from the nuking. I don't recall the fancy rule to do staves. Here are the gearsets:

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<spellcast>
	<config Debug="True"
		HideErrors="False"
		ShowGearSwaps="False"
		DisableWS="False"
		DisableJA="False"
		DisablePET="False"
		DisableSO="False"
		DisableNIN="False"
		DisableMA="False"/>
<sets>
	<group default="yes" name="Main">
		<set name="idle">
			<feet>Serpentes Sabots</feet>
			<legs>Blood Cuisses</legs>
			<waist>Flume Belt</waist>
			<back>Umbra Cape</back>
			<lring>Dark Ring</lring>
			<lear>Ethereal Earring</lear>
			<neck>Twilight Torque</neck>
			<head>Wivre Hairpin</head>
			<rring>Dark Ring</rring>
			<hands>Serpentes Cuffs</hands>
			<body>Mavi Mintan +2</body>
		</set>

		<set name="TP">
			<waist>Twilight Belt</waist>
			<lring>Epona's Ring</lring>
			<legs>Thaumas Kecks</legs>
			<back>Atheling Mantle</back>
			<head>Oce. Headpiece +1</head>
			<lear>Brutal Earring</lear>
			<rring>Rajas Ring</rring>
			<ammo>Mantis Eye</ammo>
			<neck>Rancor Collar</neck>
			<hands>Thaumas Gloves</hands>
			<body>Thaumas Coat</body>
			<main>Almace</main>
			<feet>Thaumas Nails</feet>
			<feet>Thaumas Nails</feet>
			<rear>Suppanomimi</rear>
			<sub>Shikargar</sub>
		</set>

		<set name="CDC">
			<ammo>Thunder Sachet</ammo>
			<main>Almace</main>
			<sub>Shikargar</sub>
			<head>Oce. Headpiece +1</head>
			<body>Toci's Harness</body>
			<feet>Thaumas Nails</feet>
			<hands>Myrmex Mittens</hands>
			<legs>Thaumas Kecks</legs>
			<waist>Wanion Belt</waist>
			<back>Atheling Mantle</back>
			<lring>Epona's Ring</lring>
			<rring>Rajas Ring</rring>
			<lear>Brutal Earring</lear>
			<rear>Moonshade Earring</rear>
			<neck>Rancor Collar</neck>
		</set>

		<set name="Req">
			<body>Praeco Doublet</body>
			<waist>Soil Belt</waist>
			<lear>Neptune's Pearl</lear>
			<legs>Thaumas Kecks</legs>
			<neck>Soil Gorget</neck>
			<feet>Thaumas Nails</feet>
			<ammo>Mantis Eye</ammo>
			<hands>Khepri Wristbands</hands>
			<rear>Moonshade Earring</rear>
			<main>Almace</main>
			<back>Atheling Mantle</back>
			<sub>Shikargar</sub>
			<lring>Aquasoul Ring</lring>
			<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
			<head>Magavan Beret</head>
		</set>

		<set name="Sanguine">
			<feet>Mavi Basmak +2</feet>
			<legs>Teal Slops</legs>
			<waist>Penitent's Rope</waist>
			<lring>Diamond Ring</lring>
			<rring>Diamond Ring</rring>
			<back>Romanus Cape</back>
			<main>Shikargar</main>
			<sub>Almace</sub>
			<lear>Strophadic Earring</lear>
			<rear>Hecate's Earring</rear>
			<ammo>Snow Sachet</ammo>
			<head>Thaumas Hat</head>
			<neck>Stoicheion Medal</neck>
			<hands>Mv. Bazubands +2</hands>
			<body>Praeco Doublet</body>
		</set>

		<set name="physMag">
			<feet>Mavi Basmak +2</feet>
			<legs>Teal Slops</legs>
			<waist>Penitent's Rope</waist>
			<lring>Diamond Ring</lring>
			<rring>Diamond Ring</rring>
			<back>Romanus Cape</back>
			<main>Shikargar</main>
			<sub>Almace</sub>
			<lear>Strophadic Earring</lear>
			<rear>Hecate's Earring</rear>
			<ammo>Snow Sachet</ammo>
			<head>Thaumas Hat</head>
			<neck>Stoicheion Medal</neck>
			<hands>Mv. Bazubands +2</hands>
			<body>Praeco Doublet</body>
		</set>

		<set name="nuking">
			<lring>Diamond Ring</lring>
			<back>Romanus Cape</back>
			<lear>Hecate's Earring</lear>
			<hands>Mv. Bazubands +2</hands>
			<sub>Bugard Strap +1</sub>
			<ammo>Snow Sachet</ammo>
			<head>Thaumas Hat</head>
			<body>Praeco Doublet</body>
			<rring>Diamond Ring</rring>
			<waist>Penitent's Rope</waist>
			<legs>Teal Slops</legs>
			<feet>Mavi Basmak +2</feet>
			<neck>Stoicheion Medal</neck>
			<rear>Moldavite Earring</rear>
		</set>

		<set name="cure">
			<neck>Aife's Medal</neck>
			<lear>Loquac. Earring</lear>
			<ammo>Aqua Sachet</ammo>
			<rear>Gifted Earring</rear>
			<body>Praeco Doublet</body>
			<head>Anwig Salade</head>
			<main>Apollo's Staff</main>
			<lring>Aquasoul Ring</lring>
			<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
			<hands>Serpentes Cuffs</hands>
			<back>Oretania's Cape</back>
			<waist>Cascade Belt</waist>
			<legs>Desultor Tassets</legs>
			<sub>Bugard Strap +1</sub>
			<feet>Serpentes Sabots</feet>
		</set>

		<set name="fastCast">
			<body>Mederi Talar</body>
			<lear>Loquac. Earring</lear>
			<neck>Jeweled Collar</neck>
			<head>Athos's Chapeau</head>
			<hands>Thaumas Gloves</hands>
			<legs>Blood Cuisses</legs>
			<waist>Witful Belt</waist>
			<lring>Prolix Ring</lring>
		</set>

		<set name="PDT">
			<legs>Desultor Tassets</legs>
			<feet>Dst. Leggings +1</feet>
			<waist>Flume Belt</waist>
			<back>Umbra Cape</back>
			<lring>Dark Ring</lring>
			<rring>Dark Ring</rring>
			<hands>Denali Wristbands</hands>
			<body>Dst. Harness +1</body>
			<lear>Ethereal Earring</lear>
			<neck>Twilight Torque</neck>
			<head>Darksteel Cap +1</head>
			<sub>Genbu's Shield</sub>
		</set>

		<set name="mdt">
			<legs>Coral Cuisses +1</legs>
			<back>Hexerei Cape</back>
			<lring>Dark Ring</lring>
			<rring>Dark Ring</rring>
			<hands>Denali Wristbands</hands>
			<body>Cor. Scale Mail +1</body>
			<lear>Ethereal Earring</lear>
			<neck>Twilight Torque</neck>
		</set>

		<set name="hybridEVA">
			<back>Blithe Mantle</back>
			<main>Shikargar</main>
			<sub>Almace</sub>
			<range>Aliyat Chakram</range>
			<head>Oce. Headpiece +1</head>
			<neck>Torero Torque</neck>
			<lear>Suppanomimi</lear>
			<body>Athos's Tabard</body>
			<lring>Rajas Ring</lring>
			<rring>Epona's Ring</rring>
			<back>Blithe Mantle</back>
			<waist>Phasmida Belt</waist>
			<feet>Athos's Boots</feet>
			<legs>Ocelot Trousers</legs>
			<hands>Ocelot Gloves</hands>
			<rear>Brutal Earring</rear>
		</set>

		<set name="fullEVA">
			<feet>Athos's Boots</feet>
			<main>Almace</main>
			<range>Aliyat Chakram</range>
			<legs>Kacura Subligar +1</legs>
			<waist>Sveltesse Gouriz</waist>
			<back>Fugacity Mantle</back>
			<lring>Rajas Ring</lring>
			<rring>Alert Ring</rring>
			<hands>Kacura Mittens +1</hands>
			<body>Athos's Tabard</body>
			<lear>Ethereal Earring</lear>
			<rear>Elusive Earring</rear>
			<neck>Torero Torque</neck>
			<head>Theia's Hairpin</head>
			<sub>Shikargar</sub>
		</set>
</sets>
<rules>
</rules>
</spellcast>
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By Ragnarok.Galiber 2012-05-10 12:14:04
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Ok, it's time for me to come out.

I've been pretending to be a chick that got pregnant and then... No wait, wrong topic, but nonetheless I will get a lot of heat for this (I'm sure, lol).

I'm a proud BLU that always wants to sub WAR, eats red curry and hates being stuck in the mage party. I mostly offhand the Str/atk Shikarghar, yeah. BUT...

I also own a 2/4 Khadga... And honestly guys, I love it. It's so much fun, ws frequency is doubled with it, really. I know Proth and Night ran all the possible math you can ever run with it, and I sincerely respect all the feedback they always give, but the Khadga has it's uses.

I rarely use it in abyssea, where I usually use Apoc and Alpha&Omega atmas, in VW I also tend to prefer the str/atk, unless I'm stuck with 2 blus and they want me to set ALL the procs possible, leaving almost no room for traits ( I usally /nin in those cases).

Lately I've been doing a LOT of dyna, and I always offhand 2/4, it's the best choice for what I'm doing. Why? First off, I'm /dnc, so instead having 10DA + 5 TA I only set 7ish DA. Second, I'm not Tping in Tocy/Thaums (working on the second) because the 2tick refresh is so important there, and that's another 3 DA & 3 TA gone, leaving not so many multi hits per round. Third, I'm with a THF and a MNK, and we bi-shot all mobs (DC mobs) with skillchain: CDC + VS, or Exenterator + CDC, or CDC + Amorphic, so the WS frequency for me is much more important as most of our damage relies on skillchain.

That being said, Shikarghar > Khadga, no doubt about it, but it's a fun sword, you should all really try it, it's definitely worth it if you're a dedicated BLU.

Ok, unleash hell :)
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2012-05-10 12:24:41
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Prothescar............... THANK YOU
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2012-05-10 12:27:58
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Awesome awesome awesome! Great job Pro! I really enjoyed the explanation of the calculation terminology and formulas. I did notice you were missing a Blue Magic Skill set for buffs and such. Great job once again! 10/10
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-05-10 15:47:04
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OMG this is the best post I've ever seen. Thank you SO MUCH! Bookmarked.
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Good god yes. Brb gonna level blue rq
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-05-10 16:26:09
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Very well written guide Proth.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sentinel 2012-05-10 16:59:57
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I agree. Its very well written and insightful
Thank you Prothescar for posting this. : )
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2012-05-10 17:45:33
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Stickied!
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By Bahamut.Bekisa 2012-05-10 17:53:28
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awesome job, this is what this website used to be about before pictures of unicorns and stuff took over!
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-05-10 18:09:40
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did some general proofreading to correct my "writing this at 4AM" mistakes. will find a new place for the merit category once I figure out where to put it, I kinda thought about those after I'd written the whole thing.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-05-10 18:12:16
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Ragnarok.Galiber said: »
I also own a 2/4 Khadga... And honestly guys, I love it. It's so much fun, ws frequency is doubled with it, really.

I'm not good enough with the math to call this for certain and if anyone can tell me just how much it increases feel free but I "HIGHLY" doubt it doubles your ws frequency.

1. DW job and so even if the hit distribution averages to 2 swings per attack round that only applies to half of our attack round.

2. High delay. 34 extra delay hurts your tp gain and devalues the weapon's only purpose.

This isn't even bringing in the low damage and what it does to your over all damage. If I had one, the only thing I'd do with it would be ws procs on something I'm trying not to kill and even then, inv +1.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-05-10 18:13:46
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It barely raises your WS frequency at all, in some cases it even lowers it. In my TP set I'm sitting at 3% QA, 11% TA, 29% DA. While I don't expect every BLU to have the same, the least should be around 8% TA and 23% DA. That seriously cuts in to the effectiveness of the weapon's OA2-4, the high delay causing more issues by actually significantly slowing your attack rounds as compared to a Shikargar.

OA2-4 Khadga has a 1.9~2.0 attacks/round average, we'll go with 2.0 because it's a prettier number. Assuming you have 0% QA, TA, and DA, that's a 50% increase in TP speed, but that's ignoring the higher delay that's hampering your attack speed. Every point of QA/TA/DA that you add lowers that 50% further.

You're also getting a significantly lower D to go with it, and you're losing 11STR and 22 Attack.

While, on paper, it looks fun to mess around with, for the time it takes to make one and the fact that you really aren't getting anything out of it aside from lost performance? I can't condone a Khadga's construction.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2012-05-10 18:24:59
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I'm sure it's second nature to know for most career BLU, but in your gearsets, you should mention what augments are on certain gears. :<

Okay, it's for derps like me, sorry.
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